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Quilty

Reg.: 10 Ott 2001
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Da: milano (MI)
Inviato: 30-03-2002 16:01  

http://www.forumsitalia.it/pentagono

http://www.disinformazione.it/11settembre2001.htm

Un dibattito molto più ricco di notizie lo potete trovare qui:
Che fine hanno fatto le vittime del Pentagono?

Le stupidaggini come quella che ci sarebbe stato bisogno di più morti perchè il crollo non ha recato abbastanza soddisfazione naturalmente non sono nemmeno degne di risposta.

Invece l'attenzione proprio per queste vittime(quelle del Pentagono e quelle del volo che si sarebbe schiantato sul Pentagono) da parte degli organi di informazione è stata veramente scarsa.

Che fine hanno fatto le vittime del Pentagono?

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Quilty

Reg.: 10 Ott 2001
Messaggi: 7637
Da: milano (MI)
Inviato: 07-04-2002 13:12  

LE DICHIARAZIONI DEL GRANDE REGISTA OLIVER STONE.

WASHINGTON- Osama bin Laden non lo prenderanno mai. Il motivo: è protetto dai “padroni del petrolio”americani. Parola del regista Oliver Stone, già autore di JFK, in cui attribuiva la morte di Kennedy a giochi di potere interni alla Casa Bianca.
Il regista ha esposto la sua teoria agli studenti della Brown University, poi riportata sulla rivista universitaria: i “padroni del petrolio” Usa avrebbero intimato George Bush di “lasciare stare il capo di al-Qaeda perché la sua morte potrebbe irritare i sauditi”.
Il regista inoltre avrebbe aggiunto che al Ground Zero di New York sarebbe avvenuto un coverup (insabbiamento) per tenere nascosti spiacevoli episodi come “la rimozione di arti per impadronirsi di anelli delle vittime e la vicenda di una persona che sarebbe riuscita ad allontanarsi con la valigetta di un disperso contenente 132 milioni di dollari”.
All’indomani dell’11 settembre, Oliver Stone aveva dichiarato che l’azione terroristica era una rappresaglia “provocata dalle corporazioni americane”.
Nello stesso discorso, Stone si sarebbe scagliato anche contro i politici americani che accusano Hollywood di propagandare ai bambini i film vietati e contro i capi delle compagnie cinematografiche che sarebbero dei “codardi”.

(14 GENNAIO 2002, ore 16:39, aggiornato alle ore 17:03)

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Tenenbaum

Reg.: 29 Dic 2003
Messaggi: 10848
Da: cagliari (CA)
Inviato: 15-04-2004 22:26  
che chicca
ero a conoscenza ma non pensavo di trovare qui questo.

meno male che c'è Quilty che elargiva al popolo la verità nascosta

vergognosa propaganda alternativa
per persone di misera umanità

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Tenenbaum

Reg.: 29 Dic 2003
Messaggi: 10848
Da: cagliari (CA)
Inviato: 15-04-2004 22:29  
siti segnalati dal CICAP con tale dicitura:
“Un osservatorio critico su tutte le sciocchezze circolanti nella rete e riguardanti gli attentati”

Un modo educato per descrivere chi ha il coraggio di parlare 11 settembre alternativo.
http://www.csicop.org/hoaxwatch/

http://www.snopes2.com/rumors/pentagon.htm

http://www.nationalreview.com/robbins/robbins040902.asp

http://www.magnaromagna.it/leggende/bufalapentagono.php
http://doutefree.ifrance.com/doutefree/events2.html
http://www.cacaonline.it/aereopentagono.htm
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Tenenbaum

Reg.: 29 Dic 2003
Messaggi: 10848
Da: cagliari (CA)
Inviato: 15-04-2004 22:29  
la colpa quale è ?
purtroppo il Pentagono ha solo 5 piani e non 110 con l'altezza di 420 metri

Il crollo quindi non ha dato abbastanza soddisfazione. Peccato sarà per la prossima volta.

Ah, inoltre per fare le debite proporzioni un lato del pentagono è lungo circa 280 metri;
il wto aveva una pianta quadrata il cui lato misurava 63 metri.


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Tenenbaum

Reg.: 29 Dic 2003
Messaggi: 10848
Da: cagliari (CA)
Inviato: 15-04-2004 22:30  

http://www.corriere.it/av/galleria.html?attentato_wtc/attacco&1

in questa foto [PAG. 5 FOTO 1] è evidente lo squarcio dell’aereo penetrato nel palazzo.
Un demente che non avesse visto le immagini si chiederebbe ?
Come mai il buco è così piccolo ?
Perché questo è il livello delle critiche demenziali avanzate sullo squarcio del pentagono.

Peraltro è stata tirata fuori la velocità di penetrazione dell’aereo.
Appunto; allora con lo stesso ragionamento l’aereo avrebbe dovuto penetrare il palazzo ed uscire dall’altra parte (ricordiamo le dimensioni).

No , perché è esploso subito dopo l’impatto; troppo difficile da spiegare ? c’è bisogno di parlare delle temperature raggiunte dopo l’esplosione ?
Ma ribadisco il problema è che il Pentagono ha solo 5 piani in altezza un lato maggiore di nove volte quello del wto e quindi il risultato dell’esplosione è meno eclatante di quello del wto che poi è appunto crollato.
CHE BELLA SODDISFAZIONE.

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Tenenbaum

Reg.: 29 Dic 2003
Messaggi: 10848
Da: cagliari (CA)
Inviato: 15-04-2004 22:31  
comunque le seguenti persone ringraziano:

American Airlines Flight 77, from Washington to Los Angeles, crashed into the Pentagon with 64 people aboard.

CREW
Charles Burlingame of Herndon, Virginia, was the plane's captain. He is survived by a wife, a daughter and a grandson. He had more than 20 years of experience flying with American Airlines and was a former U.S. Navy pilot.
David Charlebois, who lived in Washington's Dupont Circle neighborhood, was the first officer on the flight. "He was handsome and happy and very centered," his neighbor Travis White, told The Washington Post. "His life was the kind of life I wanted to have some day."
Michele Heidenberger of Chevy Chase, Maryland, was a flight attendant for 30 years. She left behind a husband, a pilot, and a daughter and son.
Flight attendant Jennifer Lewis, 38, of Culpeper, Virginia, was the wife of flight attendant Kenneth Lewis.
Flight attendant Kenneth Lewis, 49, of Culpeper, Virginia, was the husband of flight attendant Jennifer Lewis.
Renee May, 39, of Baltimore, Maryland, was a flight attendant.

PASSENGERS
Paul Ambrose, 32, of Washington, was a physician who worked with the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services and the surgeon general to address racial and ethnic disparities in health. A 1995 graduate of Marshall University School of Medicine, Ambrose last year was named the Luther Terry Fellow of the Association of Teachers of Preventative Medicine.
Yeneneh Betru, 35, was from Burbank, California.
M.J. Booth
Bernard Brown, 11, was a student at Leckie Elementary School in Washington. He was embarking on an educational trip to the Channel Islands National Marine Sanctuary near Santa Barbara, California, as part of a program funded by the National Geographic Society.
Suzanne Calley, 42, of San Martin, California, was an employee of Cisco Systems Inc.
William Caswell
Sarah Clark, 65, of Columbia, Maryland, was a sixth-grade teacher at Backus Middle School in Washington. She was accompanying a student on an educational trip to the Channel Islands National Marine Sanctuary near Santa Barbara, California, as part of a program funded by the National Geographic Society.
Asia Cottom, 11, was a student at Backus Middle School in Washington. Asia was embarking on an educational trip to the Channel Islands National Marine Sanctuary near Santa Barbara, California, as part of a program funded by the National Geographic Society.
James Debeuneure, 58, of Upper Marlboro, Maryland, was a fifth-grade teacher at Ketcham Elementary School in Washington. He was accompanying a student on an educational trip to the Channel Islands National Marine Sanctuary near Santa Barbara, California, as part of a program funded by the National Geographic Society.
Rodney Dickens, 11, was a student at Leckie Elementary School in Washington. He was embarking on an educational trip to the Channel Islands National Marine Sanctuary near Santa Barbara, California, as part of a program funded by the National Geographic Society.
Eddie Dillard
Charles Droz
Barbara Edwards, 58, of Las Vegas, Nevada, was a teacher at Palo Verde High School in Las Vegas.
Charles S. Falkenberg, 45, of University Park, Maryland, was the director of research at ECOlogic Corp., a software engineering firm. He worked on data systems for NASA and also developed data systems for the study of global and regional environmental issues. Falkenburg was traveling with his wife, Leslie Whittingham, and their two daughters, Zoe, 8, and Dana, 3.
Zoe Falkenberg, 8, of University Park, Maryland, was the daughter of Charles Falkenberg and Leslie Whittingham.
Dana Falkenberg, 3, of University Park, Maryland, was the daughter of Charles Falkenberg and Leslie Whittingham.
Joe Ferguson was the director of the National Geographic Society's geography education outreach program in Washington. He was accompanying a group of students and teachers on an educational trip to the Channel Islands in California. A Mississippi native, he joined the society in 1987. "Joe Feguson's final hours at the Geographic reveal the depth of his commitment to one of the things he really loved," said John Fahey Jr., the society's president. "Joe was here at the office until late Monday evening preparing for this trip. It was his goal to make this trip perfect in every way."
Wilson "Bud" Flagg of Millwood, Virginia, was a retired Navy admiral and retired American Airlines pilot.
Dee Flagg
Richard Gabriel
Ian Gray, 55, of Washington was the president of a health-care consulting firm.
Stanley Hall, 68, was from Rancho Palos Verdes, California.
Bryan Jack, 48, of Alexandria, Virginia, was a senior executive at the Defense Department.
Steven D. "Jake" Jacoby, 43, of Alexandria, Virginia, was the chief operating officer of Metrocall Inc., a wireless data and messaging company.
Ann Judge, 49, of Virginia was the travel office manager for the National Geographic Society. She was accompanying a group of students and teachers on an educational trip to the Channel Islands in California. Society President John Fahey Jr. said one of his fondest memories of Judge is a voice mail she and a colleague once left him while they were rafting the Monkey River in Belize. "This was quintessential Ann -- living life to the fullest and wanting to share it with others," he said.
Chandler Keller, 29, was a Boeing propulsion engineer from El Segundo, California.
Yvonne Kennedy
Norma Khan, 45, from Reston, Virginia was a nonprofit organization manager.
Karen A. Kincaid, 40, was a lawyer with the Washington firm of Wiley Rein & Fielding. She joined the firm in 1993 and was part of the its telecommunications practice. She was married to Peter Batacan.
Norma Langsteuerle
Dong Lee
Dora Menchaca, 45, of Santa Monica, California, was the associate director of clinical research for a biotech firm.
Christopher Newton, 38, of Anaheim, California, was president and chief executive officer of Work-Life Benefits, a consultation and referral service. He was married and had two children. Newton was on his way back to Orange County to retrieve his family's yellow Labrador, who had been left behind until they could settle into their new home in Arlington, Virginia.
Barbara Olson, 45, was a conservative commentator who often appeared on CNN and was married to U.S. Solicitor General Theodore Olson. She twice called her husband as the plane was being hijacked and described some details, including that the attackers were armed with knives. She had planned to take a different flight, but she changed it at the last minute so that she could be with her husband on his birthday. She worked as an investigator for the House Government Reform Committee in the mid-1990s and later worked on the staff of Senate Minority Whip Don Nickles.
Ruben Ornedo, 39, of Los Angeles, California, was a Boeing propulsion engineer.
Robert Penniger, 63, of Poway, California, was an electrical engineer with BAE Systems.
Lisa Raines, 42, was senior vice president for government relations at the Washington office of Genzyme, a biotechnology firm. She was from Great Falls, Virginia, and was married to Stephen Push. She worked with the U.S. Food and Drug Administration on developing a new policy governing cellular therapies, announced in 1997. She also worked on other major health-care legislation.
Todd Reuben, 40, of Potomac, Maryland, was a tax and business lawyer.
John Sammartino
Diane Simmons
George Simmons
Mari-Rae Sopper of Santa Barbara, California, was a women's gymnastics coach at the University of California at Santa Barbara. She had just gotten the post August 31 and was making the trip to California to start work.
Bob Speisman, 47, was from Irvington, New York.
Hilda Taylor was a sixth-grade teacher at Leckie Elementary School in Washington. She was accompanying a student on an educational trip to the Channel Islands National Marine Sanctuary near Santa Barbara, California, as part of a program funded by the National Geographic Society.
Leonard Taylor was from Reston, Virginia.
Leslie A. Whittington, 45, was from University Park, Maryland. The professor of public policy at Georgetown University in Washington was traveling with her husband, Charles Falkenberg, 45, and their two daughters, Zoe, 8, and Dana, 3. They were traveling to Los Angeles to catch a connection to Australia. Whittington had been named a visiting fellow at Australian National University in Canberra.
John Yamnicky, 71, was from Waldorf, Maryland.
Vicki Yancey
Shuyin Yang
Yuguag Zheng

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clagle01

Reg.: 18 Set 2003
Messaggi: 1566
Da: Lissone (MI)
Inviato: 16-04-2004 09:19  
quote:
In data 2002-04-07 13:12, Quilty scrive:

LE DICHIARAZIONI DEL GRANDE REGISTA OLIVER STONE.

WASHINGTON- Osama bin Laden non lo prenderanno mai. Il motivo: è protetto dai “padroni del petrolio”americani. Parola del regista Oliver Stone, già autore di JFK, in cui attribuiva la morte di Kennedy a giochi di potere interni alla Casa Bianca.
Il regista ha esposto la sua teoria agli studenti della Brown University, poi riportata sulla rivista universitaria: i “padroni del petrolio” Usa avrebbero intimato George Bush di “lasciare stare il capo di al-Qaeda perché la sua morte potrebbe irritare i sauditi”.
Il regista inoltre avrebbe aggiunto che al Ground Zero di New York sarebbe avvenuto un coverup (insabbiamento) per tenere nascosti spiacevoli episodi come “la rimozione di arti per impadronirsi di anelli delle vittime e la vicenda di una persona che sarebbe riuscita ad allontanarsi con la valigetta di un disperso contenente 132 milioni di dollari”.
All’indomani dell’11 settembre, Oliver Stone aveva dichiarato che l’azione terroristica era una rappresaglia “provocata dalle corporazioni americane”.
Nello stesso discorso, Stone si sarebbe scagliato anche contro i politici americani che accusano Hollywood di propagandare ai bambini i film vietati e contro i capi delle compagnie cinematografiche che sarebbero dei “codardi”.

(14 GENNAIO 2002, ore 16:39, aggiornato alle ore 17:03)

Oliver Stone,il grande Oliver.....un grande!!!con le sue parole ci ha aperto gli occhi....
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riddick

Reg.: 14 Giu 2003
Messaggi: 3018
Da: san giorgio in bosco (PD)
Inviato: 18-04-2004 19:31  
minchia."ipotesi di complotto" vi fa una sega, ragazzi

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